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HOWDY FELLOW FISHER PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO START AN ARGUMENT SO FOR THE SAKE OF THE DISCUSSION I WILL OFFER YOU THIS. I JUST WENT ON A YOUTUBE HUNT, SPOKE TO AN AMERICAN  LOWRANCE  TECH SUPPORT SUPERVISOR, A NAVY SONAR OPERATOR, WATCHED A DR SONAR VIDEO HE'S . I DID FIND A FEW THAT SAID YOU COULD TELL DIFFERENT SPECIES BUT THERE WEREN'T VERY CONVINCING. THE LOWRANCE SUPERVISOR SAID THERE IS NO UNIT MADE OTHER THAN A CAMERA THAT CAN DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SPECIES OF THE APPROXIMATE SAME SIZE IN A MULTI SPECIES LAKE. THE NAVAL SONAR OPERATOR SAID IF HE GETS A SIGNAL ON HIS SCREEN HE CAN'T TELL IF IT'S A SAILBOAT BOAT OR A CENTER CONSOLE, DR SONAR SAID THEY ARE SO MANY FACTORS SUCH AS DEPTH, SENSITIVITY SETTING OF A UNIT, SPEED YOU CAN HAVE A HARD TIME EVEN DETERMINING SIZE. TWO SMALL FISH TOGETHER CAN LOOK LIKE ONE BIG MARK. SO I STILL DON'T BELIEVE THOSE RIBBONS ARE MARKS  OF WALLEYES BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. TRUTHFULLY ON L ERIE WHEN THOSE RIBBONS ON MY SCREEN I EITHER CAUGHT NOTHING OR WHITE PERCH. YES I CAN SAY WITH SOME CERTAINTY THOSE MARKS THAT I TYPICALLY SEE ON ERIE ARE WALLEYES BUT THE OTHER HAND I WOULDN'T BET MY LIFE THAT NEXT FISH COMING OUT OF THOSE MARKS WON'T BE A SHEEPHEAD, BUT I MIGHT BET $5. :emoticon-0102-bigsmile: THAT'S MY FINDING AND I RESPECT EVERYONE'S  RIGHT TO THEIR OWN OPINION. IT KINDA NEAT TO GET DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON  VARIOUS TOPICS.  IF YOU FIND A VIDEO THAT SHOWS FOR SURE HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPECIES SUCH AS WALLEYES FROM SHEEPHEAD GUARANTEED SENT IT ALONG PLEASE. AS I SAID I KNOW A LOT ABOUT FISHING GOT MORE TO LEARN ABOUT CATCHING. :)

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There's no Argument. I'm just passing on what was taught to us by a charter captain, and my experience on the water, seeing these marks on bottom and suspended, and then fluttering spoons up through the suspended ribbon looking returns, and catching Walleyes. I think the Captain is correct and it has to do with Air Bladders of different species.

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37 minutes ago, garrymny said:

There's no Argument. I'm just passing on what was taught to us by a charter captain, and my experience on the water, seeing these marks on bottom and suspended, and then fluttering spoons up through the suspended ribbon looking returns, and catching Walleyes. I think the Captain is correct and it has to do with Air Bladders of different species.

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THANK YOU FOR REPLYING BUT I'LL TRUST THE EXPERTS ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT INVENTED AND TEST THE TECHNOLOGY. PLUS MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE HEAVY RIBBONS MAYBE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2 DIFFERENT KINDS OF RIBBONS ON THE SCREEN? IF YOU REALLY COULD EVEN 80 TO 90% OF THE TIME IDENTIFY DIFFERENT SPECIES OF FISH WITH CERTAINTY AND SONAR. IT WOULD BE HEAVILY MARKETED, ADVERTISE AND BE ALL OVER THE INTERNET. I HAVE A LOWRANCE HDS 9 GEN 2 TOUCH. GOOD INPUT AND DISCUSSION THX AGAIN.

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10 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

This is what I think the eyes come up on my hummingbird as....no way to know for sureMVIMG_20180708_103625.jpg

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I AM NOT SURE HOW TO READ A HUMMINBIRD SCREEN NO EXPERIENCE.  DO THINK THE BIG DARK MARKS ARE THE BAIT OR THE WALLEYES? THOSE NOT LIKE THE RIBBONS THE OTHER FISHERMAN SHOWED US ON HIS SCREEN. THX

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I AM NOT SURE HOW TO READ A HUMMINBIRD SCREEN NO EXPERIENCE.  DO THINK THE BIG DARK MARKS ARE THE BAIT OR THE WALLEYES? THOSE NOT LIKE THE RIBBONS THE OTHER FISHERMAN SHOWED US ON HIS SCREEN. THX
I think the longer marks with yellow in them are fish....I think some of the smaller "clutter " up top could be bait...fleas...grass..mayflies or whatever they are actively chasing....thats how I interpret that screen.

Ps doesn't mean I'm right lol

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2 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

I think the longer marks with yellow in them are fish....I think some of the smaller "clutter " up top could be bait...fleas...grass..mayflies or whatever they are actively chasing....thats how I interpret that screen.

Ps doesn't mean I'm right lolemoji1787.png

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I THINK YOUR RIGHT THAT'S HOW I READ IT MORE OR LESS. GOOD JOB!!!

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Hey Guys, the long ribbons are Walleyes. According to a Walleye Charter Captain that gave a class at the Niagara Expo show, he showed screen shots of his fish finder and pointed out the walleyes, versus sheepshead and bass etc. It has to do with the sir bladders. So yes, those longer ribbons, strings are Walleyes. Bass and sheepshead show as hooks. Believe it or not.


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I've always been taught that both can be eyes. Long ribbon means they are relatively still compared to the transucer, the hook or arch means they were moving, but at the same depth. And upward or downward line slope they were coming up or diving.

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