ciscokid Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago I JUST GOOGLE IT THE MORTALITY RATE FROM BAROTRAUMA FOR WALLEYES. FOR ALL YOU SMART GUYS INFORMATION; IT'S 35 TO 50%. GOOGLE IT YOURSELF AND BECOME EDUCATED SO YOU CAN STOP BEING DECK DOCTORS OF THE SEA.. "THEY SWAM AWAY SO THEY'RE ALL GOOD" REALLY THAT'S REAL SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY, YEAH OK!! SOME ARE SOME AREN'T. BUT OF COURSE YOU ALL DO A PERFECT RELEASE NO MATTER WHAT THE DEPTH AND OTHER FACTORS 100% OF THE TIME. OK SURE. LOL
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 29 minutes ago, ciscokid said: I JUST GOOGLE IT THE MORTALITY RATE FROM BAROTRAUMA FOR WALLEYES. FOR ALL YOU SMART GUYS INFORMATION; IT'S 35 TO 50%. GOOGLE IT YOURSELF AND BECOME EDUCATED SO YOU CAN STOP BEING DECK DOCTORS OF THE SEA.. "THEY SWAM AWAY SO THEY'RE ALL GOOD" REALLY THAT'S REAL SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY, YEAH OK!! SOME ARE SOME AREN'T. BUT OF COURSE YOU ALL DO A PERFECT RELEASE NO MATTER WHAT THE DEPTH AND OTHER FACTORS 100% OF THE TIME. OK SURE. LOL I don’t understand your logic, could you tell us what depth in your opinion is safe for catch and release fishing? There’s a lot of studies that have been done on deep water fishing that include transporting fish miles away from the catch site, how is that a real life situation. studies are coming out rapidly supporting the survival rate of deep caught fish. Most of the eyes are caught in the top section of the water Column which would suffer little to none pressure change
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, ciscokid said: INCREDIBLE BUT DOWN AMAZING!! I'LL CHECK WITH L. ERIE BIOLOGISTS ON MONDAY TO CONFIRM.🐟🐟🎣🎣 2013-2015 were record highs for perch caught per angling trips. Those years also bolstered more anglers targeting perch then walleye even thru the months of July and August. Fish numbers can be down but the fishing still be good. Limits are getting lowered for perch in other states
ciscokid Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago THAT NOT WHAT I JUST GOOGLED DUDE PLUS WHAT I GOOGLED WAS SPECIFIC TO WALLEYES. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH I DID AND I WILL TALK TO THE HEAD BIOLOGIST FOR ALL NYS L ERIE ON MONDAY!! YOUR NUTS BESIDES I'VE BEEN FISHING ERIE FOR OVER 60 YEARS ON THE EAST END. 90% OF THE EYES WE CATCH ARE WITH 5 TIO 20 FT OF THE BOTTOM THE DEEPER WE GO THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO BE SUSPENDED BUT RARELY IN TOP SECTION OF THE WATER COLUMN. I HAVE 4 OTHER BUDDIES WITH THEIR OWN BOATS THAT WOULD CONCUR. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS I HAVE LIMITED 2 MAN LIMIT 16 OF 17 TIMES. I MUST BE FINDING THE FISH AND DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. I RARELY IF EVER SET LINES IN THE UPPER PART OF THE WATER COLUMN BECAUSE I DON'T SEE FISH THERE!!!
ciscokid Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago Just now, Tiller said: 2013-2015 were record highs for perch caught per angling trips. Those years also bolstered more anglers targeting perch then walleye even thru the months of July and August. Fish numbers can be down but the fishing still be good. Limits are getting lowered for perch in other states I AM ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS STATE AND ERIE THE REST DON'T APPLY UNLESS THEY ARE ERIE STATES. THE CANADIANS ARE ALLOWED NET ABOUT 4 TONS OF PERCH EVER YEAR. I'LL ASK ABOUT THAT TOO. 2013 TO 2015 THAT ANCIENT HISTORY WHEN IT COMES TO DATA!
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, ciscokid said: I AM ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS STATE AND ERIE THE REST DON'T APPLY UNLESS THEY ARE ERIE STATES. THE CANADIANS ARE ALLOWED NET ABOUT 4 TONS OF PERCH EVER YEAR. I'LL ASK ABOUT THAT TOO. 2013 TO 2015 THAT ANCIENT HISTORY WHEN IT COMES TO DATA! It’s all one lake and one cycle. The walleye population will drop and the perch numbers will rise. The past repeats its self
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, ciscokid said: THAT NOT WHAT I JUST GOOGLED DUDE PLUS WHAT I GOOGLED WAS SPECIFIC TO WALLEYES. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH I DID AND I WILL TALK TO THE HEAD BIOLOGIST FOR ALL NYS L ERIE ON MONDAY!! YOUR NUTS BESIDES I'VE BEEN FISHING ERIE FOR OVER 60 YEARS ON THE EAST END. 90% OF THE EYES WE CATCH ARE WITH 5 TIO 20 FT OF THE BOTTOM THE DEEPER WE GO THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO BE SUSPENDED BUT RARELY IN TOP SECTION OF THE WATER COLUMN. I HAVE 4 OTHER BUDDIES WITH THEIR OWN BOATS THAT WOULD CONCUR. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS I HAVE LIMITED 2 MAN LIMIT 16 OF 17 TIMES. I MUST BE FINDING THE FISH AND DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. I RARELY IF EVER SET LINES IN THE UPPER PART OF THE WATER COLUMN BECAUSE I DON'T SEE FISH THERE!!! It’s not about catching so many fish, we may just have to disagree here. Just because I’m 27 doesn’t mean I haven’t spent countless hours out there or have done my research. I do agree some fish will suffer delayed mortality but the rate of successful releases is higher than expected and catch and release can be successful
ciscokid Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tiller said: It’s not about catching so many fish, we may just have to disagree here. Just because I’m 27 doesn’t mean I haven’t spent countless hours out there or have done my research. I do agree some fish will suffer delayed mortality but the rate of successful releases is higher than expected and catch and release can be successful YOUR NONE SCIENTIFIC OPINION MEANS ALMOST NOTHING. JUST LIKE SITTING ON A TOILET EVERY DAY OF YOUR YOUR LIFE DOESN'T MAKE YOU A PROCTOLOGIST.
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, ciscokid said: TIME WILL TELL!! You’ve been fishing Eire 60 years you’ve already witnessed it. Also Ohio has dropped their perch limits for certain zones for Lake Erie. With stellar walleye, bass, steelhead, and laker fishing something has to suffer, the perch numbers.
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, ciscokid said: YOUR NONE SCIENTIFIC OPINION MEANS ALMOST NOTHING. JUST LIKE SITTING ON A TOILET EVERY DAY OF YOUR YOUR LIFE DOESN'T MAKE YOU A PROCTOLOGIST. At the end of the day the survival rates of these fish by anyone is speculation, studies or not there are still flaws. Just like when they said the best walleye spawns were when the lake completely froze over, but the past several years proved that to be incorrect
ciscokid Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago THERE ARE OTHER FOOD SOURCES FOR WALLEYES TO EAT BESIDES PERCH THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE BEFORE LIKE GOBIES, WHITE PERCH MINNOWS. I HAVE FOUND VERY FEW YELLOW PERCH RELATIVELY SPEAKING IN THE HUNDREDS OF WALLEYES I HAVE CLEANED.
ciscokid Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, ciscokid said: THERE ARE OTHER FOOD SOURCES FOR WALLEYES TO EAT BESIDES PERCH THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE BEFORE LIKE GOBIES, WHITE PERCH MINNOWS. I HAVE FOUND VERY FEW YELLOW PERCH RELATIVELY SPEAKING IN THE HUNDREDS OF WALLEYES I HAVE CLEANED. ALSO WALLEYES EAT WALLEYES ONE THE REASONS GOLD SPINNERS ECT CATCH SO MANY EYES. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ALL THEY USE. IT A FACT WALLEYES WILL EAT MOST ANYTHING ALIVE THAT WILL FIT IN THEIR MOUTH.
Tiller Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ciscokid said: THERE ARE OTHER FOOD SOURCES FOR WALLEYES TO EAT BESIDES PERCH THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE BEFORE LIKE GOBIES, WHITE PERCH MINNOWS. I HAVE FOUND VERY FEW YELLOW PERCH RELATIVELY SPEAKING IN THE HUNDREDS OF WALLEYES I HAVE CLEANED. I would not say at all whatsoever they are feeding on perch, it’s more about competing for food sources. The perch late summer and early fall (relatively new) are now found suspended and spitting up fleas which was almost unheard of years ago
Tiller Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, ciscokid said: Perch declines are a combination of a lot of contributing factors, and the walleye boom might just be a reasult of that. Pure fact tho is the perch have been in a steady decline for some years now. You can’t dispute that
ciscokid Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago WALLEYES DON'T FLEAS UNLESS THEIR SMALL. ALL I AM SAYING IS YOU SAID THE PERCH FISHING WAS FANTASTIC AS IT WAS. IT CAN'T BE FANTASTIC UNLESS THERE'S A HEALTH POPULATION. WALLEYES DON'T EAT 10 T0 12 INCH PERCH. SO DON'T LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER IT. THERE ARE MANY FOOD SOURCES IN ERIE; UNLESS YOUR ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL OR BLIND OR HAVE NO ELECTRONICS THERE TONS CLOUDS OF BAIT IN THE LAKE ERIE RIGHT NOW; IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY EXCEPT WHEN IT WAS SUPER POLLUTED. GOOD NIGHT BRO.
Tiller Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ciscokid said: WALLEYES DON'T FLEAS UNLESS THEIR SMALL. ALL I AM SAYING IS YOU SAID THE PERCH FISHING WAS FANTASTIC AS IT WAS. IT CAN'T BE FANTASTIC UNLESS THERE'S A HEALTH POPULATION. WALLEYES DON'T EAT 10 T0 12 INCH PERCH. SO DON'T LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER IT. THERE ARE MANY FOOD SOURCES IN ERIE; UNLESS YOUR ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL OR BLIND OR HAVE NO ELECTRONICS THERE TONS CLOUDS OF BAIT IN THE LAKE ERIE RIGHT NOW; IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY EXCEPT WHEN IT WAS SUPER POLLUTED. GOOD NIGHT BRO. Fishing can be great while the population is in decline? There’s still perch out there. I don’t get how you don’t understand that. Yeah there’s a lot of bait but you don’t think perch and eyes are competing for it? You haven’t really proven anything I’ve said untrue. Can you prove how the perch population is not in decline?
ciscokid Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago HEY TILLER MAYBE YOU CAN'T READ OR REMEMBER I SAID EARLIER i WOULD TALK TO THE HEAD FISH BIOLOGIST FOR ALL OF NYS L. ERIE ON MONDAY IF HE'S AVAILABLE. HE'S IN COMMUNICATION WITH ALL THE STATES THAT HAVE WATER ON L. ERIE AND ONTARIO CANADA. HE HAS THE DATA AND THE PROOF. YOUR A WEEKEND WARRIOR WHO TALKS LIKE A EXPERT BECAUSE YOU FISH OCCASIONALLY COMPARED TO 365 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR. YOU MAKE MY HEAD SPIN WITH SOME OF YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS AND THAT'S ALL YOU ARE ONE PERSON'S OPINION BUT IT'S NOT AN EXPERT OPINION. BESIDES ONE PERSON'S OPINION IS NOT STATICALLY A VERY GOOD DATA SOURCE. SO I'LL TRY TO BE POLITE. YES EVERYTHING COMPETES FOR THE BAIT TO QUOTE YOU "THERE'S LOTS OF BAIT" WELL KID THERE SEEMS TO MORE THAN ENOUGH TO GO AROUND. THE SCREEN IS FULL OF BAIT AND I FISH FROM BUFFALO TO BARCELONA. THE FISH ARE FAT AND CHUNKY SO WHAT DOES IT MATTER THAT THEIR SHARING AN ABUNDANCE OF BAIT. IT'S LIKE GOING TO A WEDDING FEAST AND THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO EAT. YOU NEED TO SIT ON THE TOILET MORE AND DO SOME DEEP THINKING BUT THAT WON'T MAKE YOU A PROCTOLOGIST OR A FISH BIOLOGIST. 1
Dcra Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I'm trying to be a mediator here, but this site should be for fishing information where & when etc. , not a disagreement between 2 people. There is a way to message each other if you want to have a discussion, so the others don't have their phones going off constantly. And for cisco kid, please turn off your caps lock. If the other fisherman that use this site disagree with me, just say so & I'll butt out. 4
Stillwater Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago I agree with Dcra... the title of this particular thread is "Walleye Reports Eastern Basin 2025". Let's focus on fishing reports. 4
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