Locoman

It would help if you put your location in your request. Lake Erie is a big lake. The Buffalo area has an amazing smallmouth bite.

If they are going to enforce this ridiculous no fishing the docks rule, why don't they start enforcing the ramp rules. Specifically the boat prep area and the launch-retrieve ramps. There is now a designated boat prep area with ample signage, yet you still have people using the top of the ramp for this purpose. Then you have people using the launch dock to retrieve their boat. Not a big problem when it's not busy, but weekends are another story. I had an incident this past summer related to this. Since I'm retired I normally don't do weekends, but my kids don't have that same luxury, so off we went. Got to the prep area and got the boat ready. Proceeded to the launch ramp and backed up to where a boat and two gents were standing. Each launch ramp had the same situation. Now in my mind I believed that they were waiting for the person that parked their vehicle and trailer. Well, within a minute or two, a truck and empty trailer was standing in front of me. It was then I realized what was going on. He tooted his horn to get my attention so I tooted back and waved. So he gets out of his truck and says he needs to retrieve his boat. I proceeded to tell him that this is a launch ramp and "I ain't moving". I decided to take this stand because this is not the first time I've seen this happen. I've complained in the past to marina personnel but nothing ever changed. So after about fifteen minutes they convince this guy to use the retrieve ramp. So I get my boat in the water, park my truck and trailer, and head to the dock. I'm met there by a Manager who went on tell me that we all need to civil. I was civil throughout this whole incident which was not the case for the other party, hurling f-bombs and other obscentities, all this in front of my kids and grandson. To sum it up, enforce all rules equally.

His 2 million dollars have bought him the rights to operate the marina. The boating season is over for the year. His docks are encroaching on the ability of shore fisherman to pursue their sport. The state should step in and require that the docks be pulled when the bating season is over. Keith Pease is nothing but a manager for Safe Harbor Development LLC. Safe Harbor paid a lot of money for the rights to operate the marina. Those rights should not infringe on the people who pay taxes to support the State Park system. Pull the damn docks and let the shore fisherman enjoy what we used to have......nuff said. Check out Safe Harbor website..... http://safeharbormarinas.com/about/ big business at its finest.

People have been fishing the docks for a few weeks now with no problems. I've fished there myself the past two weeks with no problems. I don't know what changed but Jim you are right. Those docks are an impediment to shore fisherman. They have taken away a considerable amount of water area for fishing. This is after all a State Park that our tax dollars support. His docks are his property but the water that they float on are the property of us tax paying citizens and encroach on our ability to fish productive areas. The State Park system needs to get involved to protect our rights........Standing by for more of the story.

I've said this before, Sturgeon Point should become New York's next state park. It would free up some much needed cash for the Town of Evans.

Merry Christmas to all of you also.

Always great to hear about people helping others in need. Glad everything worked out for you.

Welcome aboard.

They could also have had the signs specifying the boat prep area in seven different languages. Some people just don't care. How about the guy who pulls his boat out of the water and stops a the top of the ramp to pull his gear. pull the plug, and apply his straps. Can't fix stupidity or ignorance. So to answer your question about protocol.........there is none.

I understand your intent and appreciate your concern. Just don't want you to get in trouble for posting the way you did. I'm with you on the issue.

Did you read this before posting?.........Just sayin'

Used to do it a lot back in the eighties. Erie Dearies worked great. Drifting was the norm back then. Trolling was just starting to take off in this area back then.

Eyes are always there...........just gotta find them. Try around Van Buren Point or Brocton Shoal.

The walleye don't know but old time fishermen know. Jimski is spot on with this. It's just an old time fishing belief. I can tell you that is pretty reliable. Modern electronics have taken a lot of the guess work out of it.