ciscokid

10 minutes ago, J. Sparrow said:

Got a solo limit out of the Catt today in 76 - 80 fow.... all on harnesses. wire diver out 200 on 2.5 and a 10 color core off a big board. Silver Spin n Glow harness took 3. beautiful day. lots of boats got fish today, but not huge numbers that I spoke with.....

COOL I HOPE THE THE CATT TURNS ON OR THE SBH BEFORE THE END OF THE SEASON.  MY BOAT IN SHOP NOW. BUMMER.

40 minutes ago, Bottom Bouncer said:

There's still a decent bite going on in Barcelona.  Got a two man limit today with fish scattered from 65 - 83 fow.  Most came off the bottom but 4 came off the riggers at 45 ft. All came on worm harnesses and no color was dominant.

THX BB I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR DETAILED INFO.  HEADED TO SEAGER MARINE TOMORROW MY BIG  MERC 115 HAD PROBLEMS LAST WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER,  HOWEVER THE SMALL HONDA 9.9 RAN FINE NOT A GAS ISSUE.  I HAD A HARD TIME KEEPING STARTED RUNNING SLOW BUT ONCE I GOT IT GOING FAST IT WAS OK. 1ST PROBLEM I'VE HAD WITH THIS 2013 MERC. I ONLY RUN WITH IT.

4 minutes ago, Misdirection said:

Here is my theory.

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2 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

I think the longer marks with yellow in them are fish....I think some of the smaller "clutter " up top could be bait...fleas...grass..mayflies or whatever they are actively chasing....thats how I interpret that screen.

Ps doesn't mean I'm right lol

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I THINK YOUR RIGHT THAT'S HOW I READ IT MORE OR LESS. GOOD JOB!!!

FYI, THERE IS A YOUTUBE VIDEO CALLED SONAR FOR DUMMIES THAT'S ME. LOL THAT HAS 6 LESSONS IN ONE 47 MINUTE VIDEO. I HAVEN'T GOT A CHANCE TO VIEW IT TODAY. THERE ARE ALSO SOME GOOD DR SONAR VIDEOS TOO. TO BUSY STUDYING FOR MY HEALTH INSURANCE TESTS.

10 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

This is what I think the eyes come up on my hummingbird as....no way to know for sure

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I AM NOT SURE HOW TO READ A HUMMINBIRD SCREEN NO EXPERIENCE.  DO THINK THE BIG DARK MARKS ARE THE BAIT OR THE WALLEYES? THOSE NOT LIKE THE RIBBONS THE OTHER FISHERMAN SHOWED US ON HIS SCREEN. THX

37 minutes ago, garrymny said:

There's no Argument. I'm just passing on what was taught to us by a charter captain, and my experience on the water, seeing these marks on bottom and suspended, and then fluttering spoons up through the suspended ribbon looking returns, and catching Walleyes. I think the Captain is correct and it has to do with Air Bladders of different species.

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THANK YOU FOR REPLYING BUT I'LL TRUST THE EXPERTS ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT INVENTED AND TEST THE TECHNOLOGY. PLUS MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE HEAVY RIBBONS MAYBE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2 DIFFERENT KINDS OF RIBBONS ON THE SCREEN? IF YOU REALLY COULD EVEN 80 TO 90% OF THE TIME IDENTIFY DIFFERENT SPECIES OF FISH WITH CERTAINTY AND SONAR. IT WOULD BE HEAVILY MARKETED, ADVERTISE AND BE ALL OVER THE INTERNET. I HAVE A LOWRANCE HDS 9 GEN 2 TOUCH. GOOD INPUT AND DISCUSSION THX AGAIN.

HOWDY FELLOW FISHER PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO START AN ARGUMENT SO FOR THE SAKE OF THE DISCUSSION I WILL OFFER YOU THIS. I JUST WENT ON A YOUTUBE HUNT, SPOKE TO AN AMERICAN  LOWRANCE  TECH SUPPORT SUPERVISOR, A NAVY SONAR OPERATOR, WATCHED A DR SONAR VIDEO HE'S . I DID FIND A FEW THAT SAID YOU COULD TELL DIFFERENT SPECIES BUT THERE WEREN'T VERY CONVINCING. THE LOWRANCE SUPERVISOR SAID THERE IS NO UNIT MADE OTHER THAN A CAMERA THAT CAN DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SPECIES OF THE APPROXIMATE SAME SIZE IN A MULTI SPECIES LAKE. THE NAVAL SONAR OPERATOR SAID IF HE GETS A SIGNAL ON HIS SCREEN HE CAN'T TELL IF IT'S A SAILBOAT BOAT OR A CENTER CONSOLE, DR SONAR SAID THEY ARE SO MANY FACTORS SUCH AS DEPTH, SENSITIVITY SETTING OF A UNIT, SPEED YOU CAN HAVE A HARD TIME EVEN DETERMINING SIZE. TWO SMALL FISH TOGETHER CAN LOOK LIKE ONE BIG MARK. SO I STILL DON'T BELIEVE THOSE RIBBONS ARE MARKS  OF WALLEYES BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. TRUTHFULLY ON L ERIE WHEN THOSE RIBBONS ON MY SCREEN I EITHER CAUGHT NOTHING OR WHITE PERCH. YES I CAN SAY WITH SOME CERTAINTY THOSE MARKS THAT I TYPICALLY SEE ON ERIE ARE WALLEYES BUT THE OTHER HAND I WOULDN'T BET MY LIFE THAT NEXT FISH COMING OUT OF THOSE MARKS WON'T BE A SHEEPHEAD, BUT I MIGHT BET $5.  THAT'S MY FINDING AND I RESPECT EVERYONE'S  RIGHT TO THEIR OWN OPINION. IT KINDA NEAT TO GET DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON  VARIOUS TOPICS.  IF YOU FIND A VIDEO THAT SHOWS FOR SURE HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPECIES SUCH AS WALLEYES FROM SHEEPHEAD GUARANTEED SENT IT ALONG PLEASE. AS I SAID I KNOW A LOT ABOUT FISHING GOT MORE TO LEARN ABOUT CATCHING. :)

27 minutes ago, Stillwater said:

Those annoying ankle biting flies were nasty yesterday off Sturgeon... bring your fly swatters!

27 minutes ago, Stillwater said:

Those annoying ankle biting flies were nasty yesterday off Sturgeon... bring your fly swatters!

BEN'S 100% DEET!!!

4 minutes ago, J. Sparrow said:

I don't have any theories, but the mayfly hatch theory intrigues me........ Are there still large numbers of insect "carcasses" floating on the surface?

In the western basin, they utilize "weapon rigs" to imitate mayflies. Last year I tied up a couple and ran them behind divers. On the very first deployment, within 30 seconds, we had a walleye..... and I was thinking "yes! I finally figured something out!"..... well, I trolled that rig for the next 3 hours and never took another fish....... I ran them several more times last season, with very limited success. 

On one of my 2 trips this year, I BB'd a weapon rig when we were seeing insect carcasses on the surface.... and although I took hits, I never brought any walleyes in the boat with the weapon rig.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to make as many trips to Erie this season as last...... and without the guys who contribute here, I would have no information at all..... so thanks to everyone who is willing to share their trip information. I was hoping to make a trip tomorrow, but as "luck" would have it I've got wood to split...............

THE MAYFLY HATCH IS OVER. IT CAN BE A FACTOR BUT NOT NOW FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE WATER..

3 minutes ago, JustFishin..... said:

They look like this on my Garmin. I’d guess that Lowrance was screen is eyes as well.


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I WOULD SAY THOSE 2 OR 3 BIG ORANGE MARKS ON YOUR SCREEN  ARE EYES THE REST IS EITHER BAIT OR SOMETHING ELSE.  YOU HAVE 2 OR 3 SPREAD OUT ORANGE MARKS SO IT NOT DISTANCE FROM THE CONE THAT CAUSING THOSE VARIATIONS IN SIZE AND SHAPE OF THE LIGHTER MARKS OR THE THINESS AND THICKNESS OF THOSE OTHER MARKS. WALLEYE/SHEEPHEAD MARKS ARE REASONABLY CONSISTENTEN IN THEIR VARIOUS SIZES AND SHAPES. THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO READ OUR SCREENS.  IF THOSE ARE ALL WALLEYES I'D BE AMAZED IMHO. THE WALLEYE MARKS ON MY LOWANCE LOOK MOST OF THE TIME LIKE YOUR  STRONG ORANGE MARKS. THERE CAN ALSO CAN BE  CLUTTER JUST UNDER THE SURFACE EVEN CAUSE BY WAVE BUBBLES OR MOTOR INFERFERENCE.  HOWEVER I DON'T THINK THOSE MANY LIGHT MARKS ON YOUR SCREEN ARE EITHER OF THOSE.   INTERFERANCE/SURFACE CLUTTER CAN SHOW UP ON A SCREEN BUT IF TRY TO HAVE A REAL CLEAN SCREEN YOU LOOSE YOUR SENSTIVITY. THOSE HEAVY RIBBONS ON THE OTHER FISHERMAN'S SCREEN ARE NOT WALLEYES THEY JUST DON'T SCHOOL THAT WAY. TIGHT LINES

I GUESS WHEN THEY SAY "GET THE LEAD OUT" YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT!!! NICE.

1 minute ago, ciscokid said:

HOWDY, I HAVE A LOWARANCE HDS 9 THIOSE RIBBONS ARE NOT WALLEYS IN MHO. LOOK A SOME OF THE OTHER SCREENS ON THIS SITE THOSE ARE WALLEYS AND SHEEPHEAD NO SCREENS HAS RIBBIONS LIKE YOUR SHOWING. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE RIBBIONS ARE BUT I AM 100% CONFIDENT IN WHAT THEY AREN'T.  THE WALLEYES NEVER SHOW UP IN BIG RIBBONS LIKE YOUR SCREEN NEVER. ONE MORE THING I ALMOST NEVER GET A HOOK LIKE THEY SHOWN WHEN  ADVERTISING PICTURES AND SCREENS. ( MAYBE MY UNIT ISN'T SET UP RIGHT TO SHOW HOOKS?) I HAVE SOME  KINDA LONG ARCHES BUT MOST ARE INDIVIDUAL ALMOST STRAIGHISH FUNNY LOKING THINGS THAT ONE MIGHT SEE UNDER A MICROSCOPE. DON'T HARDLY  LOOK LIKE FISH SO NEED SOME INTERPRETATION WHICH EXPERIENCE TEACHES US.  BUT SOMETIMES MULTIPLE MARKS THAT LOOK UNUSUAL UNTIL YOU LEARN TO READ THEM AND GAIN CONFIDENCE BECAUSE YOU CATCH WALLEYES AFTER SEEING THEM. AS I SAID LOK AS SOME THE SCREENS ALREADY POSTED THOSE GUYS KNOW MOST OF THOSE FISH ARE EYES. TIGHT LINES

ONE LAST THING I HAVE SEEN THOSE RIBBIONS B4 I HAVE NEVER CAUGHT A WALLEYE FROM THEM IN 8 YEARS ON ERIE WITH MY LOWARENCE UNITS. MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE HAS?

1 hour ago, ciscokid said:

I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE ARE WALLEYES.

HOWDY, I HAVE A LOWARANCE HDS 9 THIOSE RIBBONS ARE NOT WALLEYS IN MHO. LOOK A SOME OF THE OTHER SCREENS ON THIS SITE THOSE ARE WALLEYS AND SHEEPHEAD NO SCREENS HAS RIBBIONS LIKE YOUR SHOWING. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE RIBBIONS ARE BUT I AM 100% CONFIDENT IN WHAT THEY AREN'T.  THE WALLEYES NEVER SHOW UP IN BIG RIBBONS LIKE YOUR SCREEN NEVER. ONE MORE THING I ALMOST NEVER GET A HOOK LIKE THEY SHOWN WHEN  ADVERTISING PICTURES AND SCREENS. ( MAYBE MY UNIT ISN'T SET UP RIGHT TO SHOW HOOKS?) I HAVE SOME  KINDA LONG ARCHES BUT MOST ARE INDIVIDUAL ALMOST STRAIGHISH FUNNY LOKING THINGS THAT ONE MIGHT SEE UNDER A MICROSCOPE. DON'T HARDLY  LOOK LIKE FISH SO NEED SOME INTERPRETATION WHICH EXPERIENCE TEACHES US.  BUT SOMETIMES MULTIPLE MARKS THAT LOOK UNUSUAL UNTIL YOU LEARN TO READ THEM AND GAIN CONFIDENCE BECAUSE YOU CATCH WALLEYES AFTER SEEING THEM. AS I SAID LOK AS SOME THE SCREENS ALREADY POSTED THOSE GUYS KNOW MOST OF THOSE FISH ARE EYES. TIGHT LINES

I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE ARE WALLEYES.

I'VE FISHED BARCELONA LAST FRIDAY WITH MY BUDDIE WE GOT A LIMIT OF 12 HAD TO WORK FOR THEM. WE WENT TO THE SMALL BOAT HARBOR YESTERDAY MONDAY ONLY GOT 3 ANOTHER BOAT WITH US ONLY GOT ONE. WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE? MY BUDDY JIM AND I DISCUSSED THIS AND COMPARED SCREENS EVEN THE SCREENS POSTED ON THIS SITE WHEN BITE WAS TUFF. THE DIFFERENCE ALTHOUGH THE BARCELONA SCREENS HAS FEWER GOOD MARKS THERE WAS A LOT LESS BAIT TOO. SO WE BELIEVE THE FISH STILL  HUNGRY FOR THE LACK OF BAIT. (THEORY) INTHE SMBH AND STURGEON POINT AND THE CAT WHILE LOTS  OF GOOD MARKS NOTICED LOTS OF BAIT TOO. ALSO THE FULL BUCK MOON AND A BIG BLUE SKY DIDN'T HELP. HOWEVER A FELLOW FISHERMAN REPOPRTED THEY DID PRETTY GOOD OUT OF BARCELONA WHILE WE DID POOLY OUT OF TGHE SMBH AT THE SAME TIME SAME DAY. YOU WALLEYE GUYS KNOW WHEN THE MAY FLY HATCH IS GOING STRONG THE BITE IS TUFF TOO BOTH HERE AND ONEDIA THIS YEAR. WHY TO MUCH BAIT MY OPINION. ON MONDAY OUT OF THE SBH MY SCREEN WAS FULL OF GOOD MARKS BUT TONS OF BAIT PROBABLY AS MUCH AS I HAVE EVER SEEN.  JUST LIKE US WHEN YOUR BELLY IS FULL WHO WANTS TO EAT? WEATHER IS A FACTOR TOO. (THEORY)  ANY ANOTHER GOOD IDEAS OR THEORIES FEEL FREE TO POST AND GIVE YOUR OPION. I WELCOME YOUR EXPERTISE. I AM 75 AND STILL LEARNING ABOUT CATCHING I KNOW HOW TO FISH. 

2 BOATS WENT OUT OF SBH FISHED 50 TO 63 FEET OF WATER. GOT TWO IN 10 MIN AROUND 7:30 AM SAID WE'D DONE BY NOON. THEN THEY GOT LOCKJAW BY 8 AM ONLY GOT ONE MORE AFTER THAT AND FISHED UNTIL 3 PM. THE OTHER BOAT ONLY GOT ONE!!! WE BB'D WITH DIFFERENT COLORED SPINNERS DIFFERENT DEPTHS  EACH BOAT GOT AROUND  6 SH, AS I SAID WORTH REPEATING THERE WERE GREAT MARKS ON THE SCREEN ALMOST EVERYWHERE BUT NO TAKERS TO SPEAK OF. WHY DID THEY BITE AT BARCELONA BUT NOT OUT IN 55" TO 63 IN FRONT OF THE WINDMILLS  OR THE CONDOS' OR PORT ALBINO NOT  WITH GOOD MARKS MOST EVERYWHERE??? 

2 minutes ago, Turbodog said:

Talking with the guys around the marina it seems pretty hit or miss. One boat did get 9 yesterday and that's the best I've heard

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OK THX

3 minutes ago, Turbodog said:

I fished from 7- noon. I'm going to try again this afternoon and see if that makes a difference. I'm having a hard time getting my boat to slow down to the speeds I want even with running bags. I can only get down to 2.3 or so at the ball and I feel like that might be costing me fish also

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MOST OF THE FISH BEING CAUGHT OUT OF BARCELONA AND THE SBH ARE IN 55-65 FT OF WATER. SPEED CAN MATTER ON THE OTHER HAND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REPORTS OTHER THAN YOURS FISHING OUT OF THE CAT. I WONDER WHY? WERE OTHER BOATS CATCHING FISH?

MARTY MY BUDDY AND I ARE GOING OUT BUFFALO ON MONDAY TOMORROW WILL BE OUT THERE EARLY.  CISCOKID

7 minutes ago, Bottom Bouncer said:

Fished just west of Barcelona harbor this morning in 58 - 80 fow.  Got 6 from 8-9 and only one more after that.  All of ours came right off the bottom and 5 of our 7 in 65 fow.  Watermelon and black/chartreuse.  Thanks to everyone for the info.  It helped a lot. 

NICE THIS THE WAY THIS SITE SHOULD BE PEOPLE SHARING INFO WITH EACH OTHER NOT JUST BRAGGING.  L ERIE IS A BIG LAKE PLENTY OF FISH NOT MUCH CROWDING OR CHANGE OF FISHING THE LAKE OUT. WOULD I DO THIS ON LITTLE OLD HONEOYE LAKE NOPE.

1 minute ago, Rutnut said:

The elbow is where the Canadian border angle changes and runs to the southwest , approximately due north from 18 mile creek. We also fished there yesterday and had pretty good luck, ended up with 9 and lost 3, should have limited out, I ran out from Buffalo but Sturgeon Point is closer. Purple and black worked best ran dipsys and riggers all on harnessses


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COOL THANKYOU GLAD TO HEAR FISH BACK IN BUFFALO AREA MUCH CLOSE FOR ME THAN BARCELONA. THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION AND UPDATE!!!  

7 hours ago, rkp said:

Went out today with my son out near the line past the elbow 60 ft of water pulling bottom bouncers dipsy and leg Gore 5 to 7 color. Picked up a two-man limit. Including a 31 inch 10.5 lb!

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NICE FISH CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT AND WHERE THE ELBOW IS PLEASE?

GREAT JOB NICE FISH!!!! I ASSUME YOU WENT OUT SMALLBOAT HARBOR.  I KNOW WHERE THE ROUND HOUSE IS, THE CONDO'S BUT I NEVER HEARD OF THE ELBOW UNTIL THIS YEAR AND HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT'S LOCATED OR WHAT IT IS;  CAN YOU HELP ME WITH WHAT IT IS AND IT'S LOCATION PLEASE.

WE WENT TO BARCELONA TODAY AND WENT WEST. WE TROLLED BB'ERS E TO WEST  IN FRONT OF THE RED BARN 55 TO 65 FT. WHILE WE HAD TO WORK FOR THEM WE GOT OUR LIMIT OF 12 AND LOST A FEW.. THX TO EVERYONE WHO POSTED WITH DETAILS AND HELPED ME.  ANY REPORTS FROM CAT CREEK? IT WAS 116 MILES FROM MY HOUSE TO BACELONA. TIGHT LINES