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The report I saw said 1 to 3. Sorry maybe I was looking at the wrong one. I always check NWS Ripley to Buffalo. I tried to attach a screenshot but it said "this community does not support a file if this type".

NOAA said 2 feet or less???


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Looks like it's still slow. More work around the house I guess. Waves 1 to 3 for Saturday too which means 2 to 6 in reality.

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Oh no!

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On 10/29/2019 at 8:03 AM, Burger said:

 

thanks. I guess what’s confusing my is, why is the steelhead fishing in Lake Erie & Upper River spotty, but the Erie Tribs full of them?


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The water temp in Lake Erie warms up quick. In summer, we see 74 degrees from top clear down to 90-100 FOW off Catt creek. I think the Steelheads find some cooler water somewhere, but I have no idea where. That may explain it. Same thing goes for Lake Trout, which like cold water too. They tend to be off Northeast PA to Dunkirk, as I understand it. For walleye, you could go in front of the windmills, in the main lake, and probably have better luck than in the river.

On 5/23/2020 at 12:09 AM, Fishy7816 said:

We trolled along the windmills near smokes creek from 8:15-11:30 ended with 5 nice walleye and 2 bass (which we threw back) fog got pretty thick but we had a steady bite once we found the pod. 1.5-1.8 in 5-10 fow.


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Thanks for sharing your results. 

On 11/10/2019 at 5:55 PM, tim said:

Do you know if it will control small kicker. 4 Stroke 15 hp merc


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Sorry I didn't see this Tim. My Lowrance Outboard Autopilot is the hydraulic one. It controls my main motor (175 Evinrude outboard) steering. I connect a steering arm link from my main motor to my big motor, so when the big one turns, the small (9.8) kicker turns with it.  

I thought I would start a Topic, place for us to post any Catt Creek reports for 2020. Hopefully, this year will be as good as the last two. Good luck to all. 

Thanks I've seen a place that was selling perch rigs using trout-like mayfly nymphs.

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Just got done with the Niagara falls Fishing Expo. The romanacks mentioned them as a high action bait to use after water hits 60 degrees. Along with mag lips and such.

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I just use my wire line setups I use Salmon on Ontario. I can't afford to have set up ups dedicated to both species. Seems to work ok, but I'm no expert.

Slapshot, if you run wire you need twili tip or roller tip.
J. Sparrow, I keep at least 2 numbers different when running double divers.  I use Slide Divers and set them together.  Once you get used to doing it then it is trouble free.  I run that way once lake sets up and fish are deeper.  I run single diver early when fish are high.  For Lake Erie I pretty much stick to braid divers rather than wire.

I guess not, everyone uses minnows.

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I just got warrior spoons at the Niagara falls fishing Expo. Flutter spoons, and little warriors. Hopefully they will produce. Great guy. Paint is guaranteed, if it comes off, you get a free spoon.

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Thanks that about what I use.

I used a 25' setback from the release. 

How much line out from the rigger release? Thanks.

Riggers were at 50' & 55'.

They should just install another turbine on the Niagara falls powerplant and it would generate far more power than windmills. PROBLEM SOLVED.

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Maybe it's the algae blooms over on the Ohio side caused by too much fertilizer run off.

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I am using a lite bite diver now but I'm not using the slide function. I just connect my line to the front attach point. Then my leader is connected to the rear arm as usual. One complaint I have with the diver is that it cannot be tripped by jerking the rod. This makes bringing it in to check lines or change lures a very difficult task.

The Slide Diver Light Bite when properly setup and adjusted pretty much eliminates dragging small fish and false releases.  There are adjustment screws on both the rear release arm and the front tow arm- the rear release should be set fairly loose with the front a bit tight yet releasing when rear release drops.  As far as deploying the slide leader there is a learning curve.  I find using heavier mono like 30 to 40lb test makes deployment and slide leader life longer.  Typically I use and deploy a 45 foot leader for the slide.  I add a 30 to 36 fluoro leader to the lure on the swivel for the slide leader.  For storage the leader goes on a leader spool.  The slide diver stays on the rod and I just swing the slide leader around the bottom of the reel attaching the snap swivel to first rod guide.  Slide diver stores in this position.  To me the advantages of the slide diver especially the light bite out weigh the learning curve of using it.  I used dipsey divers for twenty plus years but feel light bite double trigger and the ability to vary lead length make the slide diver more versatile.  PS  I get no deal when I buy Slide divers.

I thought the 45# 300 Copper got down to 80 feet?

300 copper is deadly on the eyes.  getting down 62-65ft depending on speed.  don't tell anyone....its a secret!   Auroralite big boards with three 300 coppers off each side. 

I have an HDS 7 gen 3. Everything works fine now but I thought if I see a cheap fish finder unit for sale I might get it for back up. Just to control the autopilot. My next FF will not be Lowrance since there is no repair. But I love this autopilot and want to be sure I can control it.

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Hi Sherman based on what you said I used the slide diver without the slide part and I like your idea. The slide was a great idea but it was difficult to keep working and difficult to deploy.

I would highly recommend going out on a charter that runs divers. I started out with 2 days on the same charter before I went on my own. it was the best money I ever spent on fishing. I didnt know anything about running dipsies. but after the 2 days I was able to run 3 per side with a tangle here and there. by the end of the 1st day we was running things with the help of the charter caption. he set the divers on the 2nd day then we did the rest.
1 I use a 6' to 7' 20# fluro leader.
2 if I get a fish on an outside rod I move to the middle of the boat and wait while keeping the line tight until the fish comes over the inside lines then start reeling it in.
3 if you get a fish that don't release the diver the rod should be back farther than normal. if the fish trips the diver it will either be pulled back more or less than normal. but sometimes its really hard to tell. if a small white perch gets on the only way you can tell is by watching the ends of the rods for small jerks on the rod tip. its a lot of work but unless you use the lite bite slide diver which has a lure tension adjustment on them you should check for small fish or missing worms on harnesses often. you'll learn how often to check them.
I could go on all day about using divers but its not practical. one thing I will say is the dreamweaver deeper diver is much better than the dipsy and is the same as the dipsy with the ring on but it doesn't use a ring. the dipsy rings are a pain because they keep coming off. I use the lite bite slide diver now which has rings but they don't come off. I also use it like a dipsy and don't use the slide part. but I would never give up the lite bite feature. it has 2 adjustments 1 for the rod and 1 for the lure tension. I set it very loose so it trips on most very small fish.

Joe I have the Windy App. I didn't check what it said for yesterday, Everytime I use it there are 3 banners for my saved spits and only one is visible, the other two are always hidden behind the first.

Agreed with the band forecast but we did do very well out there this morning same setup as you 65 to 75 feet of water and I'm going kind of North and South did better on the North Pole but I just couldn't take the waves no more I called off tomorrow's trip it's killing me. Try the app call Wendy. Calm it's red with white switches I could try to send a link but I'm not great at that stuff. And then I come up with my own wave forecast due to whatever the app shows for wind direction and speed NOAA is always wrong they always underestimate

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September 8, 2019. NOAA missed the forecast again,which is no surprise. They said one foot or less, and it was 3 foot rollers with a frequency that made fishing uncomfortable an difficult for tending lines, and keeping a somewhat smooth troll. We had a bad day, compared to many. We motored out to where I left off thursday, 70-75 FOW, and found some fish. We decided to try bottom bouncing with crawler harnesses, because my father in law just came back from 8 days in canada and they catch tons of walleyes with jigs up there, rod in hand. After half and hour with no bites, we started trolling. The fish did seem scattered as I found most of the times I have been out this summer. I trolled through my marks on thursday in 75 FOw, out to 80 and back, and we did see a fair number of walleyes at 60 feet down whwre the water temp was 71 versus 72 on surface, as I recall. Only caught 3, and decided to call it a day because my father in law could not even stand up in the boat with his bad knees.  Caught One on a rigger at 65 (spoon), one on a 200 copper (stickbait tipped with crawler), one on a diver (crawler harness- round blade this time) .  Oh,  had another hit on the diver and lost the entire setup, black chinook diver too, my last one. Wire just broke. I think we were running our divers too high for most of the time we fished, and I usually experiment more, but for some reason I didn't today and it hurt us. I ran them around 145-160 most of the time. Mistake. I sometimes let out line until they hit bottom and then crank in a little but I didn't do that today.  I didn't even try leadcore because I did not think it would get down with as rough as it was and the boat moving up and down and sideways 3 to 4 feet in every directions. Thursday leadcore did not work for me, which is unusual because I usually have real good luck with it. I didn't want a copper leadcore tangle with the waves today so I left the leadcore stowed.  Someone mentioned it was a weird day with the wind, waves and current direction, and I agree.  It seemed for us a southwesterly troll was smoothest. I did not use hunt mode with my itroll today because with the current,wind and waves it would be too hard to program in the right settings. I tried to maintain my speed from 1.6 to 2.3.  I will be back out there Saturday waves permitting. Moral of my  story-lesson learned  for today was, try everything and see what works. 

Went out today, wife and I put 10 in the box. Ran 8 and 9 color lead, fished 68 - 75, most fish caught right at 70. Also most marks. We marked a lot of perch fishing for 4 hours, and couldn't keep them off the harnesses. We boated 9 and kept 5 nice ones. They also robbed worms, which sucks when you see their bouncy hits on the rod then nothing, and you haul in 8 colors of lead to check.
I agree with you guys on divers, I've also had a tough time getting them to trip, and thats a workout hauling them in when they won't. I quit using them and work on perfecting my leadcore fishing. If you don't think you lead is getting down to the bottom let out more backing until you hit fish, noting on your line counter how much you had out and get it there each time. I found today that trolling at 1.2 - 1.4 also helped me to bounce bottom.

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I use my salmon wire line dipsey rods. I've used slide divers, Chinook divers, and luhr Jensen dipsey divers. Nothing really works well as far as detecting hits, I think the walleyes just swim along with the lure. I do set drag as light as possible and use that as an aid.

Have you tried not using snubbers? I have had most walleye trip the dipsey and I do not use snubbers and have braid on the dipsey rods.

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I knew I should have broken out my 300 copper I use for salmon yesterday. Walleye were down 60 to 70 and 10 color lead couldn't reach them.

300 copper is deadly on the eyes.  getting down 62-65ft depending on speed.  don't tell anyone....its a secret!   Auroralite big boards with three 300 coppers off each side. 

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