Norm Moser

Larry iam not attacking you or any other charter captains i am one. what I am saying is maybe I should sell my boat and fish with a charter at the way it going it would be cheaper. No gas, No boat to take care of, no fights at the docks, no winterizing the boat and storage. just catch fish. so when you taking me.

Maybe Mostlymuskies has a point come fish lake erie  maybe we should sell our boats and all take charters it sure would be a hell of a lot easier an in the long run cheaper. { iam not picking on you Larry your still the man}

You guys are right this is a joke but its not funny no real improvements in over 50 years if not longer.I find it hard to believe but maybe the people in charge don't know there is a real problem. I wounder if someone on here with good computer skills could get an online petition going that we could all sign and send it to the people in charge. with all the local clubs and fishing sights in n.y. state that is a lot of voices and power the powers that be need to know there is a problem and be held accordingly. This has gone on for way to long and wont change if it dose not get pushed.

WHAT Jim said, come on Albany its been the same problem for 50 years. Olcott  launch on lake ontario  fixed the up the harbor but did nothing to the docks at the launch, same curled broken wood sticking out of the docks with nails for the last 20 years !!! I even offered to buy new bumpers and put them on and they said NO.

All my kids and some of there friends started hunting at a very young age around 8, I would take them pheasant hunting with us on a game farm and they would carry a red rider bb gun, they learned how to carry a gun how to shoot safely. If any one of them messed up they heard about it. The man that ran the farm JIM said he had guys that where 50 years old point shotguns at him and guys walking with there finger on the trigger so age was not the factor. at 10 years I took my kids deer hunting on a deer hunting perserve. They all shoot a 243 with a muzzle brake and practiced every week. out hunting they learned how to get in and out of a tree stand and NOT have a loaded gun.They leaned how to look past the target and whats beyond. and a lot more. they all at one point in there young hunting careers  shot 160 class bucks. the point is its training not age.  would you take a 16 year old that just got there learners permit that day and put them in a car on the thruway at rush hour doing 65 mph. god bless ya. Its not age its training

Try on line at Fish307 they sell cannon parts may have what you need

I agree, I was saying the same thing.  Why cant the town contact some of the gravel companies and see if they will do it for free. They used to suck up the gravel at the head of Strawberry Island years ago for construction, they had huge piles of gravel and sand at the foot of Hertel . Or is it a DEC thing and red tape that stops it ? But it sounds like a win, win if it got through.

I cant believe that there is not a sand and gravel company out there that wont suck that stuff up for free.

yup,I do it all the time hitting them is the hard part. I use a 177 cal. and it kills them, I hunt other small game with it also.

I was just going through the Gowanda pennysaver  and found this add Secord and Secord Ponds the add said they do pond cleaning, drainage, demolition, phone  716 537-9363.  I dont know them and never had an work done by them just by luck saw the add, hope it helps

Fyshon, you are right back around 3 years ago Canada and the US closed it borders and you could not enter Canadian waters with out calling and declaring in then they would give you a number to show if you got stopped, that ended when the US and Canada came to an agreement to allow crossing the border with out calling in as long as you did not make contact with shore. This is all together something different US boats can NOT enter Canadian water and Canadian boaters can not enter US waters period this is what the Canadian border patrol told us. this is all due to the corona virus.

We all know the US and Canada border is closed, but what dose that do for boating, can we run our boats in Canadian water drift in Canadian water with out touching shore. it seems there is a gray area a lot of different  opinions. We where on the upper Niagara river west side of Grand island ( that is 90% Canadian water ) we where running at about 30 mph  and the Canadian border boat stopped us (they where very nice and very polite) they told us the border was closed and that NO U.S. boats  could cross into Canadian water., running, or not. we talked for about 15 min. from how hot it was to fishing for bass and walleye, very nice guys. So the point is if your in that gray area and are not sure. this came right from them.  You CAN NOT cross into there water for any reason and that go's for the lakes ERIE and Ontario. that also means almost ALL of the west river is off limits.

Maybe that's the problem the walleyes are all wearing masks and cant eat.

Are the docks in on the Catt.

Dos anyone know if the docks are in, anyplace on the Catt yet.

second Jim Ultimate outdoors

I fish the river all my life spent my summer as a kid on the upper river in fact my grandfather and father where fishing guides on the river. I have never seen or heard of any one catching a laker in the upper river BUT anything can happen. we would catch steel head in the spring and fall off the walls and at the head of the river but not like you would in lake Ontario. If you can get your hands on a book called Sander Fishing guide 2 it has a world of info on fishing this area of N.Y. state. it has maps and fish found in an area and spots to try for most fish. good luck hope this helps

No lakers, if your lucky you might and I say might catch a brown more so in the spring and late fall, you can catch steelhead in some places in the spring and fall but not a lot, walleye fishing can be good and the bass fishing is outstanding along with some good musky fishing and pike fishing. REMEMBER most of the west river is  Canadian water. 

there was a emerald shiner shortage long before the latest walleye explosion some years we had a good run some year not so good, I lived by the rive and grow up on the upper river , back as far as the early 60 and on it was a year to year thing. Now with that being  said, I agree that the large numbers of walleye and the refugees that take dozens and dozens of 5 gallon buckets filled to the top with no water every day in the spring are hurting the shiner population. the DEC was doing a study on why the population drops, they where looking into the water flow current speed and temp, pollution plus other thing like disease but I haven't seen any reports out. I remember in the 70's when small tanker trucks would pull to the foot of Sheridan and fill the tanks up to sell other places some out of state and that would happen almost every day in the spring. there is more to it than just what we see its not just the walleye population.  more funding and more studies are needed good luck with that.

A friend went to Dunkirk to launch today and said there was parking for about 8 truck with trailers after the make over. if this is true where is every one parking there trucks and trailers that fishes out of there, there has to be more then 8 spots to park, I would hope.

HERE WE GO.

WHAT MR. 580 SAID

AS I recall back some 40 years when I was a kid, the Miss Buffalo would do morning trips as a party fishing boat, but it didn't last very long couple of seasons,

Good Luck Larry, Be safe send pics.

Hi Ed,  and  welcome. If your fishing the west end of erie before you invest in a lot of gear you might try a charter to see what you need and dont need. Capt Juls out of port clintion  OH is great  and fishes out of a ranger so the boat lay out well be a lot like yours. by the end of the trip you well have a real good idea of what is going on and setting lines. Ph 419 835 7347 also Lance Valentine from walleye 101 offers training charters where you use your own boat you can see his stuff on the walleye 101 web site. but this site offers a lot of good info from great fisherpeople at the right time of year.  good luck fishing