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Couple of comments:

I still have lots of may flies on my boat in the morning. If there are bugs around always run a high line or 2 (2-3 colors of lead)

Use your chart plotter to keep track of where the bait concentrations are and fish outside of or away from the bait.

3 hours ago, Puking Dog said:

Seems silly to me. Why would you do this unless you r short on number of rods on board. Unless you think the balls r scaring away the fish. I suppose that's possible, but I doubt it. Surely mono or fluoro are less visible than lead. I think I have to call BS on this tactic.

The cores have about 15 feet of flouro leader puke. Last 2 trips limits in a few hours, quality fish 23-24 inchers with a 28 and a 29 thrown in.  More than half off the riggers. Don't understand why you feel the need to bag on other people's methods, I really don't give a flying you know what how you fish, go have fun.

15 hours ago, garrymny said:

So you are using a leadcore on the rigger, like a secret weapon rod? (SWR). Good idea.

 

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Correct. I always run a 2 color and a 3 color on the riggers and park both balls about 15 feet above my target depth. Very effective even in shallow (30 to 35 feet).

Caught 7 and lost several fishing solo 6/23 pm in 45 feet. Nice class of fish mostly 22 to 23" with one 28".  3 color on the rigger 25' down, 5 color, and 7 color. Willow blades in purple/gold and nuke green. 2 to 2.1 mph GPS speed.  most fish caught trolling east. I have only been out 3 times this year and it is getting better. 

Fish yesterday in 60 ft of water east of sturgeon. 9 fish on 6 to the boat all nice 22 to 24 in eaters lost one monster. Everything on the 9 and 10 color and riggers

Interesting fish, second pic of the tail looks completely different. Has some salmon and some trout characteristics.  

Spend enough time on the water and you see some unusual stuff. Here are 2 pics of a 28" eye I caught in 2015. The color in these pics is spot on with the actual color of the fish (I still have the skin) Only one I have ever seen like this.

I agree with Battle. Fished Ontario over 25 years, caught hundreds of salmon, never saw one with a square tail. It is a great catch though!

19 minutes ago, Stillwater said:

Our drift speed varied from about .4 to 1 mph SOG. Probably to slow to trigger them? Thanks.

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Your blades were hardly spinning, if at all.

2 hours ago, Stillwater said:

Fished out of Sturgeon Point yesterday from 8 to 2 pm. Went west and drifted with harnesses and bouncers in water ranging from 60 t0 70 feet. Plenty of marks and some bait clouds on screen from time to time. Not a very productive day but it was good to be out for first time on Erie this season. A trolling boat went by and caught one a few hundred feet from us. Caught 1 drum and my buddy had a good one on and lost it. Line was cut clean above the bouncer so it might have got cut by the gill plate? Was a good fish. Bummer. Looking forward to next outing.

Might have to take up trolling but we enjoy the rod in hand bite and fight. 

Regarding wind / wave forecast we were expecting 1 foot or less and for a while they were at least 3+ feet I would say. Not a problem but interesting to see the variation.

I tried drift bottom bouncing early and had no bites. Speed on the drift was 1.3 to 1.5 Once I started trolling I got all my fish trolling northeast at 1.9 to 2.1 mph

Fished out of SBH today, 58 to 60 FOW 1/2 mile inside the fence. Boxed 5 nice fish 22 to 24 inches and released a 31" sow that was pushing 10 lbs. Fished for a while closer to Buffalo then went southwest looking for better water and found it. The picture closer to Buffalo had fish but little to no bait. Once I got about 8 miles down there was lots of bait with active fish under it and the bite was on. Everything happened from 10 to 11:30. 

7 and 9 color, and 2 color off the rigger did all the work, Double willow fire tiger, perch hologram single hatchet, and double blade copper colorado were the only harnesses I ran and all took fish. 

I often hear on the radio guys saying they mark a lot but no takers and I am convinced these are fish that are not actively feeding. As we say in FL, find the bait, find the fish!

Oh yea, the interns at the National Weather Service are still trying to learn to forecast today's wind and waves and still failing.

Fished 55 to 60 fow out of sbh today. Tons and tons of bait. 5 fish all 22 to 24 inch very chunky fish. 5 , 7 color and 2 color rigger.

On Monday, July 03, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Lipripr said:

2color off rigger?   

On Tuesday, July 04, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Pequod1 said:

That's an in treating technique.  What type of release do you use that doesn't crimp the lead core or do you just use a two color lead core rod?  Also, how much will it drop below the ball?

We were at Dunkirk yesterday and got 7. all but one came on 7-8 color over 78' on a crystallina/watermellon colored renosky. 

2 color rod with braid backing. Puts the bait 70 feet back and about 10 feet below the  ball. I use the blacks releases set super light.

Yes what battle hammer said. Has been working for me for couple of years. 2 or 3 color

Fished out of sbh today. 50 to 60 feet 8 fish all eater size 19 to 26 inches. 5, 7, an 10 color and 2 color off the rigger. All harnesses.

Fished 45 to 50 north of Seneca today. 7 walleye couple of 16" throwbacks. All on harnesses on 5 and 7 color and the 30 jet. Keepers were 20 to 23". Challenging fishing with the sudden light changes during and after the T storm to the west. Once it got bright it killed the bite for about an hour or so but it turned back on. Copper and copper watermelon when it was cloudy then nuke green when it got bright.

Ground out a decent box of eaters fishing solo.