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Last Saturday's haul.  Left the dock at 6:30, back at the dock by 10:30.

And I run alot of single strand stainless wire. Most guys in my area run 12 to 15 lbs test. I run 20.

The dive curve for wire is 1' of depth for every 10' of wire + crank depth. We commonly run 300' of wire with a rapala husky jerk DHJ-12. That Husky Jerk will dive to 19' for a total of 49' of depth. Our thermocline typically sets up around 50'. Thats perfect for us.

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Once the water warms up by late June, definitely by early July, were running spoons and cranks at 2.5+ knots down here. My typical setup is 2 downriggers, 4 dipsys, and 6 rods off of big boards.

Spoons and / or small shallow diving cranks off of the dipsys and downriggers and deep diving cranks off of the big boards with weighted line or inline weights to get them down deeper.

One of my charter friends went out in some rough water recently and the slowest they could go was 4 mph, they slayed the walleye.

Speed kills when your running the right gear!

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Welcome! What port are you out of? I dock in Ashtabula OH. Lake Erie is an awesome fishery. You'll find that different areas of the lake require different techniques.

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I suspect the OP is staying in Westfield, NY and going out of Barcelona. Quite a bit further east than Geneva, OH.

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And if your running a spreader rig with multiple hooks and get one on, don't be afraid to leave it down there for a few moments before reeling it in. Thats how you attract other fish and catch doubles.

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You can also look at the Simrad Cruise (similar to the Go, but does not have a touchscreen).

As far as the the best place to buy, I'd just suggest googling them and buying from the cheapest reputable dealer. I know the GPS Store, Defender Marine, and Hodges Marine are all reputable and have good prices.

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I'd vote for either Simrad or Garmin. You can get a Simrad Go XSE 7 for $499 or certwin Garmin EchoMap's in the $499 to $599 range.





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Call Bob Luellen at worldwide marine. He can help you figure out what you need. He's a fisherman and really gets it.

http://www.worldwidemarineins.com/

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how to stop dipsie diver from tangeling with worm harness
 

I'm honestly not sure of the legality.  I don't think the downrigger assembly counts as a rod and reel, if this were the case guys out trolling would be forced to count them in the rod limit, this has never been the case as far as I know.   Technically this method doesn't seem any different to me than running a fixed cheater on a rigger line.  I'm just trying to maximize baits in the water without going over the rod limit thats all.  Again, I know it's a risk of a tangled mess but I would never know without trying.  Was just interested if anyone may have done this successfully to guide me what's the best way to do it.   If it tangles then I know it's an idea for the "not feasible" pile hahaha.

The rigger would probably be classified as a rod and reel wouldn't it? Like those deep drop electric ocean reels?

No idea just an interesting concept.....

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Just wondering what the legality of this method is! As this isn’t a rod and reel or a hand line ....sounds like desperation to me!


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Hi everybody, I'm new to the forum here.  I've been fishing Erie from the North Shore out of Kingsville and Wheatley for years.  
I have been using old 7' Charters Choice rods made by Wolverine Tackle.  Those rods are long discontinued now.  I love the rods as they are great for inline planers, big planers, down riggers, bottom bouncers, etc.  They are unfortunately well used now and was wondering if anybody knows what I could replace them with.  
Thanks,
Steve

I have heard of guys doing this before for walleye. Usually with a little longer leader. Works great until you get a steelhead full of piss and vinegar on.

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Hey Guys, the long ribbons are Walleyes. According to a Walleye Charter Captain that gave a class at the Niagara Expo show, he showed screen shots of his fish finder and pointed out the walleyes, versus sheepshead and bass etc. It has to do with the sir bladders. So yes, those longer ribbons, strings are Walleyes. Bass and sheepshead show as hooks. Believe it or not.


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Here is my theory.

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Glad you had a good trip! Now you'll be more prepared for your next trip!

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So how do we buy of these?

Was out near the line west of Seneca shoal yesterday. Had b bouncers, snap weights, and lead core with worm harnesses. Also pulled a bandit at 37 ft off a board. Nothing! While seeing my screen like this! What do you see on this screen?

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Ohio cut the perch limit to 10 in MU 2 (managent unit #2 in Ohio). Thats Huron to Fairport Harbor. They should have extended it to the PA line as our perch fishing is dreadful out here in MU 3. I hope whatever is affecting our perch numbers out here doesn't extend to your end of the lake.

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Right now, its a walleye slaughter out there. I'm a little east of Cleveland in Ashtabula, and its been quick limits of impressive walleye. This past Saturday it almost took longer to run out to the fish than catch em. We put 24 nice (24" - 28") fish in the box in about 2 hours.

Make sure your rods are calibrated, you have large dipsys on hand and a tray full of spoons.

Don't be afraid to troll fast (2.5 knots +).

Seven colors of leadcore or 300' of single strand wire are doing well.

Deep diving cranks with weights if you don't have lead or wire.

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#2 Duolock snap. When you clip the crank on, make sure the clip on the duolock is away from the lip of the crank.

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Because of the orientation of Erie being angled to the NE/SW, if we were fishing the 02 in Ashtabula, you can fish the 00 in Geneva and 04 in Conneaut. Thats a general rule of thumb. Its all about finding the right currents, temp, and baitfish. But in Conneaut, you find the humps and trenches that are more pronounced inside Pennsylvania can offer different opportunities.

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The 02 line is 8 miles out of Ashtabula and I would guess 4 to 5 miles out of Conneaut. Out of Ashtabula we fished inside the 02 until almost August when the lake really started to warm up. Then we had to venture out into the lake.

The best way to locate walleye in the summer on our part of the lake is to look at the bottom temps. Once you find the colder water, you've found the walleye.

See attached pic, that was from late August. Once the lake warms up, you gotta run out to where the (yellow) colder water is, at least for those of us who fish eastern OH waters.

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